Due to other commitments, blogging will be sparse here for the next few days, but I wanted to draw attention to a situation which is unfolding in New York that just tears me up.
The aptly named Holy Innocents parish in Manhattan is under threat of closure from the ecclesiastical powers. As a parish which has painstakingly raised money for restoration and which features not only a daily TLM, but parish growth, this is a huge injustice.
My friend Binks has the details directly from a parishioner:
I’m a guy from Brooklyn who attends the Traditional Mass at Holy Innocents Church in New York City.
I don’t know if you have heard anything about the impending closure of my parish, Holy Innocents. It is the central church for tradition in the archdiocese of New York, with a daily TLM (Traditional Latin Mass).
Oh, we have the standard Mass in English there as well. We have no debt. The congregation is growing. We just went through a tremendous rehabilitation of our mural, which was painted by Constantino Brumidi, the artist who later painted the U.S. Capitol. See here:
All of this was done by the congregation raising money or, in my own case, using my construction skills sometimes literally on my hands and knees for hours, working and sweating to help rehabilitate the church building.
On The Other Hand
The archdiocese is currently rehabilitating St. Patrick’s Cathedral to the tune of $200 million, and it needs money big-time. To save costs, it recently announced that it was looking to close a number of parish churches in Manhattan.
Fair enough. There are too many churches in Manhattan left over from when the Church was strong in New York. However, we are on the top of the list. Interestingly, one of the Manhattan churches that holds LGBT Masses is not on the list:
Father Justin Wylie, who was attached to the United Nations, preached the following sermon at mass a few weeks ago. I was in the front row, and I was so excited I almost jumped up and shouted (but didn’t, not in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament and during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass–I AM a Traditionalist Catholic).
Here’s a post by Catholic blogger ‘Father Z’ with the transcript. Please take a moment to read it:
The end result? Not so good.
Then What Happened
It seems that the archdiocese of New York has not only yanked Fr. Wylie’s permission to say Mass in New York, it’s written letters to the UN delegation and father Wylie’s diocese, and he’ll be officially kicked out of New York City shortly:
This is not made up. This is not drama. I know Father Wylie personally. I know that Traditionalists often come off as paranoid. But remember the old joke that just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean that they’re not out to get you.
Please, read Father Wylie’s sermon. If there really was anything in there warranting his immediate silencing and expulsion, please point it out to me.
If not — if you see any questionable procedures or outright injustice in this maneuver by the archdiocese — I ask you to publicize it.
Thank you for your time, and interest.
It’s one travesty after another these days, and my sources say this isn’t the only scandalous thing brewing in the viper pit known as the Archdiocese of New York.
When I asked someone recently what we can do about things like this, they said that we need to pray for holy priests. That’s all well and good, but we also need to pray for the safety of the holy priests who are already out there, and for places for them to go where they won’t get railroaded — if they’re lucky enough to make it through seminary and not get booted for being too Catholic.
Tarring, feathering, and running a priest out of town on a rail because he had the audacity to call for Catholics to request pastoral care from their shepherds? Is this the kind of thing which, when said from the pulpit, should see a priest sent packing back to his home country, stripped of all assignments and duties?
I worry about the situation of traditional Catholics in the Archdiocese. Yes, the archdiocese ‘permits’ a traditional mass here or there — but responsibility for the matter continues to rest upon the initiative and resourcefulness of the laity, who with enormous difficulty have to source priests hither and thither as though we were seemingly still living in Reformation England or Cromwellian Ireland. Isn’t it high time for the Church to take pastoral responsibility also for these sheep? Do they not deserve a shepherd? a parish? or at least some sense of juridical security? What happens to you when the parish you are harbouring in closes its doors?
What will become of the priestly vocations aplenty I see in these numerous young men of such quality as we have in abundance serving here at Holy Innocents, St. Agnes and elsewhere – remaining as they do at the mercy (and sometimes, caprice) of ‘landlords’ who, for one reason or another, ‘permit’ their presence in their parishes? Doors everywere seem closing to them. Our Saviour has closed its doors to them. St. Agnes, for its part, guards its doors vigilantly to make sure they don’t enter the building 5 minutes too early or don’t overstay their welcome by 5 minutes more. Now, it seems, the doors of Holy Innocents will be closed to them, too. Taken together, this is, in my view, a clear instance of exclusion: an injustice which you should bring to the attention of your shepherd, I think. You are fully-fledged members of the baptised Faithful, for heaven’s sake: why are you scurrying about like ecclesiastical scavengers, hoping for a scrap or two to fall from the table for your very existence? The precariousness of your community cannot hinge on a church building being available to you as though you were a mere sodality or guild. The days of renting space in hotels and the like must surely be over. You are not schismatics! Are you schismatics?
Apparently, the truth burns. I hope it leaves a mark.
Not entirely coincidentally, I was reading this article in New York Magazine yesterday, which detailed the way Cardinal Egan handled criticism from priests in the archdiocese. When I read about Fr. Wylie’s treatment, well, how could I not see the parallel? If the Mafia were running the Church in New York, you’d hardly have a more draconian response to dissent:
As Egan, 74, prepared to retire from the pulpit that he rarely used to great effect, Egan’s long-standing fears seemed to be coming true, his history repeating itself with uncanny timing. He’d called the meeting of the Presbyteral Council in response to an anonymous letter, containing a series of blistering attacks on the cardinal, that surfaced on a clerical-gossip blog and subsequently made it into the papers.
The disloyalty he read in the priests’ faces this Monday in October reminded Egan of the ugly finale of his own mentor, Chicago’s cardinal John Cody. Cody, who died in 1982 under a cloud of scandal and recrimination, was one of those old-school churchmen whose long tenure was marked by a brittle and autocratic style. But then-father Edward Egan, who in the sixties served as personal secretary to Cody, stood by the cardinal to the end. Egan saw Cody as a role model and regularly championed his legacy, a past that was never as present as it was now for Egan as he approached the twilight of his own career.
The letter, signed by an anonymous “Committee of Concerned Clergy,” said that the relationship between the priests and a New York archbishop—the mortar that binds the hierarchy—had never “been so fractured and seemingly hopeless as it is now.”
The authors, who claimed they had to remain nameless because of “the severely vindictive nature of Cardinal Egan,” collated every criticism ever circulated about him—he was “arrogant and cavalier,” and especially “cruel and ruthless” toward priests, whom he treated with “dishonesty, deception, disinterest and disregard.” Egan had “an unnatural fear of the media” and had abdicated his role as a public figure and leader of the Catholic Church. And it called on the priests to act so that the Vatican would find a better man for the job.
Egan opened the session by reading, in full, an abject apology written to him by Monsignor Howard Calkins, a popular Westchester priest who, the previous day, had given an interview to the Daily News, in which he said that the letter reflected real anger at Egan. That was tantamount to betrayal in Egan’s mind, and Calkins, realizing he’d made a mistake, quickly wrote a personal letter to Egan offering to resign as head of the local vicariate, or region, and apologizing again for his “careless and ill-considered comments.” After reading Calkins’s letter, Egan called over his spokesman, Joseph Zwilling, and ordered him to release it to the media.
According to several accounts from those who were present, Egan went on to claim that his enemies were priests accused of sexual abuse who thought that Egan hadn’t adequately defended them. “When I hear stories about what those priests do, I have to do No. 2,” he spat in disgust. Then Egan widened his target to the entire priest corps: Of the 2,000 priests and bishops in the archdiocese, he lamented, not one stood up to defend him. “I was loyal to Cardinal Cody to the end,” he insisted in the stentorian affect he uses to complement his imposing height and girth. “Let me tell you, that is manliness! That is priestliness! That is Edward M. Egan!”
The room went silent. Egan announced that he needed to go upstairs for physical therapy on his knee, which still hurt after joint-replacement surgery in September, and then retired to his private quarters while the priests waited. For their part, they just wanted to get through the meeting and get back to their parishes unscathed, and the way Egan had handled Calkins convinced them that any hint of insurrection would be tantamount to clerical suicide. As the meeting stretched on for two hours, the priests agreed to a statement of support for Egan, saying they were “appalled” by the anonymous letter and “upset and dismayed that our Archbishop has been personally vilified in this manner.”
Is Cardinal Dolan, the guy who says “Bravo” and “Good for him!” when an NFL player comes out as openly gay, also the sort to squash the only substantively traditional community in New York? Has he learned a little something about how to handle the nails who stick up from his predecessor of heavy-handed reputation?
All signs point to yes, as the Magic 8 Ball would say. At the very least, he isn’t doing anything to stop it.
I want like crazy to find a way to starve any diocese treating their most faithful Catholics of every drop of funding. I wish there were more of us, who would be willing to direct our tithing toward those organizations doing some good, and to stuff the envelopes from our respective Bishop’s Annual Appeals with letters of protest instead of juicy checks.
If hashtags could be fashioned into economic weapons, I’d love to start a campaign to #defundtheUSCCB.
I’ll admit it though: it’s tough when activists with deep pockets fund heterodox organizations which seek to tear down the Church from within. When the hierarchy thinks it’s completely unaccountable to Christ, how could we ever believe they’d be accountable to us?
“The most evident mark of God’s anger and the most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world are manifested when He permits His people to fall into the hands of clerics’ who are priests more in name than in deed, priests who practice the cruelty of ravening wolves rather than the charity and affection of devoted shepherds.”
– St John Eudes
UPDATE: New evidence puts Cardinal Dolan at the scene of the crime.
Catholics should gird their loins and cultivate spiritual joy. We are all going to need some true joy midst the persecution that has commenced from within the Church.
“Apparently, the truth burns.” Yup.
And the source of the Truth needs to be excised quickly lest in infect others.
CALL
TO
PETITION
Fisher More
FFI
Fr. Wylie say, “Good-bye”
Holy Innocents
Deacon Nick
Slowly boil, now that’s the trick
So cock your pens
And write your pappy
Spill your ink on trees once sappy
But do not fight
With soul and might
In charity, just letter-write
For you are lords
Approved patricians
Who give your lives for bloody petitions!
BRAVO!!!
Found your blog recently, kind host. Thank you for articulating many concerns I too, a grateful Catholic of the Arlington, VA diocese, share with you and the com boxers.
An anecdote: my 12 year-old son and I visited NYC last summer and assisted at a mid-town Mass. At the conclusion, the priest made a “joke” so blasphemous that my son (an altar server but, sadly, no choirboy) whispered “let’s get out of here, Mom.”
When I said ‘grateful’ above, I reference the great gift of having a Sunday TLM every week here at home. Prayers for Father Wylie and the Catholics of NYC.
Thank you again for the wonderful work on this blog, and be not afraid. None of us is alone.
SAF…true fellow traveler! I’m also grateful to be an Arlington Diocese parishioner. Though no diocese is perfect, the oasis of sanity that Arlington generally is, comes home like a slap upside the head when my husband and I travel. It’s always so wonderful to get home and back to a respectful reverent Mass, and mostly solid orthodox priests. I told my husband that if he ever wants to move I would only agree to a move to Lincoln Nebraska. 🙂
And you’ve raised quite a spiritually adept and discerning young man….thank you.
A fellow Susan! I’ll keep going by SAF to keep it simple.
Glad you love our “oasis” too.
Send your money and anyone else who will listen, to the Society of Saint Pius X. They are slowly rebuilding the Church Jesus Christ gave to the apostles to hand down to us – whole and pure. What my parents kept telling us when we were young was how the Church used to be when they were young and how it is all gone – the reverence, Latin, etc. It is not all gone it is all there. This weekend 7 new priests will be ordained in Winona, Minnesota by Bishop Bernard Fellay. A most holy and grace filled weekend. If you can go, it is the most beautiful thing this side of heaven to witness. First the ordinations, confessions all weekend, priests first Masses, blessing of a new priest, holy Roman Catholic books, rosaries, medals, etc. for sale and you can get what you need blessed by a priest.
In time the Novus Ordo will fade out. It is made from man, to please man and not God. Keep your hopes up, pray and sacrifice. Our Lady promised in the end Her Immaculate Heart will triumph. She will have the Mass that pleases Her Son the most and full restoration of the Catholic Church (per Our Lady of Good Success, Quito, Ecuador)
In the book “True Devotion to Mary” on page 19 it says: because the Most High with His holy Mother has to form for Himself great saints who shall surpass most of the other saints in sanctity as much as the cedars of Lebanon outgrow the little shrubs… THESE great souls, full of grace and zeal, shall be chosen to match themselves against the enemies of God, who shall rage on all sides; and they shall be singularly devout to our Blessed Lady, illuminated by her light, strengthened with her nourishment, led by her spirit, supported by her arm and sheltered under her protection, so that they shall FIGHT with one hand and build with other. With the one hand they shall fight, overthrow, and crush the heretics with their heresies, (go to and read the SSPX websites) the schismatics with their schisms, the idolaters with their idolaters and the sinners with their impieties. With the other hand they shall BUILD the temple of the true Solomon and the mystical city of God… By their words and their examples they shall draw the whole world to true devotion to Mary. This shall bring upon them many enemies, but shall also bring many victories and much glory for God alone.” If one goes the the SSPX website or their DICI website, they explain away much confusion that is going on. The faith is explained clearly and without error. We just finished a Rosary Crusade in reparation to the Immaculate Heart of Mary so that the consecration would be done. (“Only I can help you”, Our Lady of Fatima) Spend your money where it will be put to good use and for the Glory of God and salvation of souls.
God Bless,
This weekend 10 priests will be ordained to the FSSP in Leesburg, Virginia.
It isn’t all desolation in full communion with Rome.
Actually, Steve, it’s just two priests being ordained to the FSSP in Leesburg.
Seven more were ordained at the seminary in Denton. Nine were ordained for the Wigratzbad seminary, and one was ordained in Rome making a total of 19 men ordained worldwide for the FSSP this year.
Ah, thanks. I thought someone told me it was ten. Should have read about it myself.
And even though irregularity remain, seven Society deacons will be ordained into the priesthood and five subdeacons will be ordained to the diaconate at Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary in Winona, Minn this Friday.
Indult communities and the Society are two places where the garden is still being tended. O Lord grant us priests …
3 priests ordained from the Canons Regular of St. John Cantius in Chicago (following up on 2 last year). The two I know best are kind, sharp, devout and street-smart–as shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves. Good men. We’ll need them.
Re: Cardinal Dolan. His behavior has now become literally hellish. No idea what his actual intentions or motivation are. It makes no difference to those that are negatively affected:
“Hello. I’d like to declare that I’m a publicly unrepentant and obstinate mortal sinner. And I want to endorse the idea that others should join me.”
“Bravo! Good for you!”
“Hello. I’d like to declare that I’m a traditionalist priest who is concerned about the spiritual options of my flock.”
“I’ve just alerted your superiors to your disobedience. Get out of my city!”
Well, this is just evil. Let us pray that in the end the Cardinal doesn’t get what he so obviously deserves.
Re: Cardinal Dolan. His behavior has now become literally hellish. No idea what his actual intentions or motivation are. It makes no difference to those that are negatively affected:
Wagers on the table that the Archbishop of New York and the Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Province of Rome are cut from the same people-pleaser cloth. A troublesome type in the clergy, and particularly common in our own.
The fact that Egan was Cody’s protege says it all.
I have to disagree with St. John Eudes. Dolan’s behavior — and the behavior of prelates like him — has far less to do with with the sinfulness of the laity than the institutional arrogance and sense of entitlement the Church has been instilling in its leadership corps for centuries. That’s where the sin comes in. You seriously think this is new? Just go back to St. Peter Damian and “Liber Gomorrahianus” in 1049! Ever since the fall of the Roman Empire (if not before), Catholicism exchanged its spiritual patrimony for wealth, power, secular influence and worldly prestige.
This is the same reason why JPII could arbitrarily ignore Scripture and Tradition in making the Church’s position on capital punishment effectively abolitionist. This is the same reason why Benedict signed off on “Caritas in Veritae,” the encyclical advocating the establishment of an international body to oversee all nation’s finances. (How the Vatican plans to subordinate itself to such a body, let alone how such a body could be formed, apparently is quite coincidental).
This is why Francis can ride roughshod over the Church and receive cheers from the ignorant. It’s all part of the same piece.
Dolan, Cody and their ecclesiastical peers are no different than the “false shepherds” of Ezekiel’s day (Ezekiel 34) or of Samuel’s day (1 Samuel 2: 12-36) … or, for that matter, of Jesus’ day (Matthew 23). A holy, righteous God is not amused when people who claim to hold authority in His name abuse it for personal agendas.
Dolan and the rest of the USCCB have no idea what God has in store for their unrepentant, arrogant hearts.
2 john 9
You’re ex-catholic, right?
What the Hierarchy is doing is less destructive to you personally than what you have done to your soul for by your actions you have extinguished the Sanctifying Grace once exiting there .
Your first duty is the salvation of your soul; see to tBEFORE you rightly, criticise others.
Today your soul may be required of you
http://imanamateurbrainsurgeon.blogspot.com/
Amateur Brain Surgeon, I place my faith in God and His Son, Jesus Christ, who died for my sins, thereby receiving the punishment that I and the entire human race deserves, and rose three days later to destroy death. I place no faith in any ecclesiastical organization — Catholic, Protestant or Eastern Orthodox.
If you don’t believe what I said about Catholic ecclesiastical structure and behavior are true, then just read this article that appeared in Friday’s New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/us/us-bishops-seek-to-match-vatican-in-shifting-tone.html?hpw&rref=us&_r=0
Why do the American bishops need a Pope to use as a model when Christ Himself provided that model in John 13? Read that passage for yourself.
If the bishops weren’t careerist swine, they would have followed Christ in this matter a lonnnnnnnng time ago. They haven’t because the Church sacrificed its spiritual patrimony for wealth, power, prestige, secular influence, monarchistic trappings and institutional arrogance.
In fact, apostasy is gaining ground, just as the authors of the Epistles said it would in the “last days,” which, technically, began at Pentecost. That apostasy affects and afflicts all churches; Catholicism is no exception.
Only massive, dedicated repentance on the part of the hierarchy will save this faithless Church from the judgement it so richly deserves.
St Cyprian: The spouse of Christ cannot be adulterous; she is uncorrupted and pure. She knows one home; she guards with chaste modesty the sanctity of one couch. She keeps us for God. She appoints the sons whom she has born for the kingdom. Whoever is separated from the Church and is joined to an adulteress, is separated from the promises of the Church; nor can he who forsakes the Church of Christ attain to the rewards of Christ. He is a stranger; he is profane; he is an enemy. He can no longer have God for his Father, who has not the Church for his mother.
Repent why ye still have time, Joe. You are not following Christ is you reject His Church
ABS, you can quote St. Cypiran all you want but that doesn’t change the fact that the Catholic hierarchy is apostate.
If you don’t believe that, look around you.
If the hierarchy has rejected Christ, and I follow the hierarchy, am I not rejecting Christ?
Just look at the Pharisees. They knew Jesus was the Messiah but chose to have Him crucified because He was a threat to their power and influence. What makes you think this Pope and the College of Cardinals wouldn’t do the same, if given the chance?
Blind group loyalty is not faith. God gave people brains, let alone the Holy Spirit, to discern the circumstances around them.
Ah, we have a mystic among us! A reader of hearts, or perhaps cards, and Delphi oracles of every sort! Today, we may have to account for our souls, indeed. There are those who see Faith, Hope, and Love as merely an expression of Me, Thee, and My Piety. They see The Most High as an Adoration Addict with little interest in the affairs of most, most akin to the mohammedan god. Then, there are others, who believe The Most High would have commenced all of Salvation History, The Passion included, if it were necessary to save but one soul, even an amateur one. The Saints, like Ignatius and Teresa of Avila, have said they would come back 70x, suffering the same life, death’s agonies, if it were possible just to save one soul, such is the prize of ONE soul, even if it meant their Salvation was no longer assured. While you judge us as damned, we venture into the terrifying, treacherous territory of begging/admonishing hirelings to no longer compromise the flock to commerce, be it ideologically, or otherwise. So while you search out what/who the roads of hell are paved with, please be reminded that being the only ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC Church, cuts both ways. Such as it is, when The Covenant was fulfilled in The Coming of The Messiah, and The Jews were no longer exclusively God’s Chosen, but now ONLY those who would follow The Rock HE had chosen to build HIS Church on, the WOES The Most High speaks of no longer applied to a dead caterpillar Hebrew Church, now transformed into The Butterfly of a Brilliant, Universal Love, but indeed to the Religious Authorities of The Roman Catholic Church! For what other reason did THE MOST HIGH choose a devil as an Apostle, but as a dire warning to all other Apostles he would choose! The admonitions of The Churches in Revelation, or The Epistles, are saying nothing to heretics, schismatics, pagans, or amalgams of all sorts, but are speaking only to Roman Catholics! We forget, often, that all the promises of Tradition, Scripture, and the Magisterium apply to us, but ALSO every Divine Indignant Stare, warning, and responsibility. To Whom Much is Given, Much is Expected.. So, count me among those who are willing to storm Heaven and show The Courage of St. Catherine of Sienna, who one day showed up in Heaven with a damned soul, believing so much in The Mercy and Love of God. What the third Most Holy Woman (After The Mater Dei and St. Mary Magdalene) discovered was that the damned suffered more, unrepentant, in Heaven, then they could ever in hell, so St. Catherine Of Sienna let go the damned soul, straining to return to the pit, so multiplied were it’s pains. But the Holy Prodigy of God continued, asking why God could not have taken away the pains, where this Beloved of The Most High, was politely asked to go no further with her inquiries. St. Joan of Arc has walked this road, and so did St. Athanasius, and St Nicholaus. St. Pius X, my favorite Pope, and Pope Leo XIII, my second, also did the same. In fact, Good St. Nick knocked out Arius, when a spat of Divine Anger overcame him, and St. Pius X, a mystic and miracle worker when reigning, was known to remind a man, quite vigorously, that the Life of Faith was not for putrid pantywaists. Be the Pharisee, justifying himself, if you wish. I will go with that remnant: alone, sullied, disparaged, poor, powerless, moved only by the Queen of All Prophets and her Saintly Servants, for the LOVE and GLORY of GOD And Our poorly catechized, sacrificed, traded, Neighbor (Our Brothers/Sisters in Faith, firstly), who know not where they are, where these times originated, and where, sadly, (MERCY, LORD!) they are leading. SALVE REGINA MATER MISERICORDIA ORA PRO NOBIS! VIVO CHRISTO REY!!!
It is not evidence of afflatus that ABS knows the gentleman has Unpoped; he has made that clear in many forums
The fact that Egan was Cody’s protege says it all.
Read Andrew Greeley’s memoirs on Cdl. Cody, and you’ll see a delineation of crimes Cdl. Cody committed. (This is the man Greeley called a ‘madcap tyrant’.)
1. He kept Greeley waiting for 90 minutes (and supposedly did this to others).
2. He barked at Greeley at a meeting in 1966.
3. He schemed to strip Greeley of a franchise to write for publication and put him on parish duties full time. (Cody never did this. Greeley assures us that a chancery ally of his tipped him off that Cody was going to do this but was only willing to transmit the order over the phone rather than in writing and Greeley sabotaged this by refusing to take calls from Cody).
4. There were homosexuals employed in the chancery (which Greeley states Cody did not know).
5. Cody suffered from a personality disorder and fancied that he and Helen Dolan Wilson were the only ‘real’ people in the world, and everyone a chess piece to be manipulated. (One always says this sort of thing about a man one has met once who was not exactly dissected for public view by the newspapers a-la Richard Nixon).
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I think its a reasonable inference that Cdl. Cody misappropriated (if not embezzled) Church funds for Mrs. Wilson’s benefit, but you cannot help but think that Cody’s real deficit was that he just did not care much about the work of Andrew M. Greeley or the sensibilities of Andrew M. Greeley. As for Cody’s problems with the Association of Chicago Priests, &c, one might just consider the possibility that he was bedeviled by the same breakdown in discipline among priests and religious that every other bishop was.
Art Deco, the federal government was investigating Cody for embezzlement when he died. I don’t think the federal government give two farthings about Cody’s opinion of Greeley. Nor does the federal government (at least, not at that time) investigate on mere “inference.”
Steve, I truly can’t get over how well you articulate the clear, unambiguous facts, coupled with flawless analysis. It is a great gift you have…a charism really. I am SO glad I found this blog…a true island of sanity…PLEASE DON’T STOP!
Thank you, Susan. You’re too kind.
P.S…..your commenters ROCK, almost as much as you do….a brainy, ballsy, well-informed and spiritually attuned bunch.
The American Pope is merely aping his apostate boss. I think the biggest endorsement for Dolan was from the devoutly-depraved Governor of New York who, after being told that an Argentine from the bowels of the earth, or other such drivel, was elected, said, “I was hoping Dolan would be elected..” Fine praise, indeed. This inspiration from a demented democrat (a thousand pardons for the redundancy) who frequently receives sacrilegiously under the auspices of His Eminently Bi-Polar-ness. Someone should tell sugar-cheeks that laughing like Arch-Bishop Sheen doesn’t make you loved like him, thinking and writing like him does. The true tyranny of his chancery there goes on unabated despite his unsettling yuckles (there, I just coined it) with the Culture of Death. A million “Bravos” and “Good-for-You’s” for the entity, temporal or ethereal, who can convince His CheeseHead (go search “Dolan/Cheesehead picture”) that your infernal rage should be foisted on blasphemers of all sorts and not on Traditional Catholics, Fr. Rutler, and Fr. Wylie types. What would the Arch-Diocese do if the sodomite priests there, most upset with Fr. Wylie’s remarks, followed their true calling as cabaret dancers? Imagine the enveloped extortion and sacrilegious communions avoided! So, a prayer for, what Benedict XVI called, a “smaller Church”, emptied of lispy clerics, with child-bearing hips, and effeminate gaits, at least under the flaring nostrils of His Lowliness, the American Ahab..
well……….that was just poetry.
Thank you for drawing attention to this unfolding attack. Authentic Catholics (priests and lay alike) are being driven underground not by the communists, but by the bishops – in this case, the (public) champion of homosexuality, Cardinal Dolan.
I hope Fr. Wylie, and those priests like him, understand how much they are appreciated by those of us who believe in the full Truth of the Catholic Church. They are white martyrs. How profoundly disturbing that they find persecution at the hands of fellow priests. Thanks to the likes of Dolan, the muslims and other enemies of the Church have a lot less work to do.
Every diocese should indeed be starved of money by those in the pews. Letters and phone calls are completely ineffective.
Oh, the letters and phone calls would work if they transmitted the disapproval of someone in front of whom the chancery employees could be embarrassed. That’s just not you. Amy Welborn’s description of the mindset of those in the employ of various dioceses, residual apostolates, and religious orders applies often, one suspects: “bored out of their minds careerism”.
God save us from human respect! For those of us, God be praised, who have managed to retain and/or return to the True Faith, let us pray for the Grace of Final Perseverance for each of us. The persecution is just starting. St. Alphonsus has a timely exhortation on human respect. Well worth your time: http://copiosa.org/liguori_sermons/liguori_sermon_10.htm
Sadly, this scenario is being played out all over the country and is not exclusive to NY. Cardinal Dolan is the face of the Catholic Church in America for many and his actions mirror the Bishop of Rome’s on a smaller scale. Please and appease all, EXCEPT those who are “too Catholic”. They must be silenced if not punished. Hold on folks, and pray pray pray.
atsa4you, what makes you think that Dolan’s behavior is new? The Church’s ecclesiastical structure encourages such men as Dolan to suck up to the Pope — any Pope — to further their careers. That’s why so many American bishops supported JPII’s arbitrary, revisionist teaching about capital punishment: Opposing it would cost them career advancement.
You can bet that if it’s happening under Francis’ watch, and if it happened under JPII’s, it certainly happened in centuries past — regardless of the personalities or the issues involved.
atsa4you, what makes you think that Dolan’s behavior is new?
His inane babble about the exhibitionistic football player is most certainly a novelty.
For those residing in the Merrie Olde Archdiocese of Washington, the fate of Msgr. Winthrop Brainerd at the hands of Cdl. McCarrick sounds awfully similar to the sad tale of Fr. Wylie. Not to mention the keelhauling of Fr. Marcel Guarnizo. The heterodox get the goldmine while the faithful get the shaft.
to Father Wylie I would say, “Bravo!” “God bless ya!”
New evidence puts Cardinal Dolan at the scene of the crime:
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/06/on-dismissal-of-fr-wylie-from-new-york.html
Archdiocese of New York just got three new Auxiliary Bishops: one a social activist leftist, one a pragmatic bureaucrat, one I believe to be a very dedicated priest (despite unwavering and unquestioning loyalty to the post-conciliar structure; strong pro-life creds).
http://www.stfrancisnyc.org/2014/06/pre-pride-mass/
Blind group loyalty is not faith. God gave people brains, let alone the Holy Spirit, to discern the circumstances around them.
Joe. You think the Catholic Church is an apostate Church and which belief constrains you to conclude that Jesus lied when He promised the gates of Hell would not prevail; that is, an ineluctable consequence of your false belief is that Jesus is Satan and He established His Church that would lead uncountable numbers of souls to Hell.
The consequence of your ideology is that Jesus is The biggest liar ever.
Sorry, Joe; that is not using your brain at all.
Now, you could conclude that the Hierarchy has refused to teach the truth during this execrable epoch and that such events as V2 are an example of of pastoralism that has failed but one can not be Catholic and conclude that his Church has become apostate for Jesus sent the third person of the Blessed Trinity upon the church to teach it all truth and to preserve it from teaching error.
Joe, you are taking the easy way out; use your brain – you simply can not claim the Holy Spirt as your guide if that spirit is telling you that the Church the Holy Ghost was tasked by Jesus to teach and protect has become an apostate church for that is to pit the Holy Ghost against himself.
Buck-up, brother.
Repent while you still have time; the Catholic Church requires men willing to fight and you are one of those; come back home, brother.
Hmm, I thought you Neo-catholics believed in that Sense-of-The-Faithful nonsense? I guess, like all liberals, only when it suits you. Sorry, you got your self-esteem shredded. I know you v-2ers are very sensitive and delicate. Apologies. Of course, if I had a Darwinistic view of Theology (which is in clear opposition to Revelation, which speaks of a continuous devolution, but I digress) imagining we all have a “reasonable hope” of being saved, just so long as we adore the ambiguous sophistry of the pastoral council, and all it’s adherents. It’s just that the rest of the neanderthals here, myself included, don’t get that the NAZARENE was never really properly understood until the gods, err, rather fathers of the hippy-love council, explained him properly. That only Traditional Ecclesiology stands in the way of kumbaya ecstasies and Coca-Cola harmonies on mountains teaching the world to sing. If it weren’t for The Remnant, I could see another Assisi theatric with each member of swaying shamans, blithering budhists, and murderous mohammedans each giving life to a muppet as “Rainbow Connection” cascades down the aisles like the smell of sulfur near a kindergarten. Now, to your most slanderous allegations. The MYSTICAL BRIDE is ever spotless! The INSTITUTIONAL Bride often is not. If you think every Pope, Cardinal, and Bishop was a Saint, you don’t know your history, which is not surprising, for in your world, creation did not come into existence before 1960! Wherefore life was just a formless void prior. Now, I would never suppose that THE SON OF GOD was a liar because he didn’t agree with me, yet you do as much. THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST YOU can be understood in a couple ways. Firstly, that THE CHURCH assaults hell, and it’s Kingdoms. That THE LORD is urging us to go to pagan and muslim lands, among the Jews, etc.. to wrestle souls away from the devil and his brood. Among those demonic kingdoms do we count ALL OF THE OCCULT and the esoteric nazi elite who are among the most rich and powerful on earth, temporally. That THOSE GATES WILL NOT PREVAIL against us. Martyrs? Yes! But eventually, GOD will give us the VICTORY. Secondly, and Benedict subscribed to this, that THE CHURCH, so long as She has ONE SOUL FAITHFUL, She will never be prevailed upon. What you hope is that GOD will guarantee the HOLINESS of Church Leaders like Protestants believe. When “Pastor Bob” runs away with the church-lady, his “congregation” is floored. That’s one of the advantages to being Catholic. We Use FIDELIS ET RATIO! IF Bergy is enraptured right now in diabolic mysticism, it does nothing to my FAITH. Bergy will never TEACH ERROR EX CATHEDRA BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT WON”T LET HIM!!! He can invoke Baal and Moloch every day, despite caring for his soul, it doesn’t do a thing to affect my belief in ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC FAITH. The fact that you would embrace a councilliar construction that believes a pentecostalist heresy is the only way one can truly ADORE the THIRD PERSON Of THE MOST HOLY TRINITY, CO-EQUAL IN ALL THINGS, is utterly detestable. The argument is really this simple: Use every faculty THE LORD gives you, all the information you can gather, from everywhere, Heaven, hell, and every dimly-lit place in between, and know if GOD can ALLOW DEICIDE, THE WORST THING IMAGINABLE, every other thing, no matter how disturbing, is possible. Now, some of us will not want to look at the abused and violated soul, because the implications shake our own narratives, life experience, and beliefs in goodness. We should want to go there and be with those souls and fighting every single entity, visible and invisible, that enslaves or poisons that soul. I gather you;re too delicate for that. Some of us believe extolling the goodness of St. Joseph is enough. There are others who believe, when there are souls who do not have one, such as The Terror of Demons, as a paternal figure, we must use every resource available, visible and invisible, to move Heaven and Earth, to provide them one. VIVO SAN GIUSEPE! AVE MARIA, GRACE PLENA!! MOST HOLY TRINITY I ADORE YOU!!! MY GOD, MY GOD, I LOVE YOU IN THE MOST BLESSED SACRAMENT!!! (CORPUS CHRISTI celebrated today by all those who reverence Tradition) =+)
Jay Day, thanks so much!
Jay. Do you treat your own burn wounds resulting from your torching of a field of straw men?
If your rant was directed at ABS he has no idea what you are writing about but the fact that Joe signaled his agreement is not comforting 🙂
The fact that ABS has limited comprehension is not newsworthy. I hope you’re familiar with the essence of so-called “bible-believing” heretics, What they do is memorize 16-20 KIng (Not only was he a mason, but added/deleted bible passages as heretics do)) James bible texts, summarily, even out of their own contexts, to justify their own views, and condemn Catholicism. So, novice-surgeon, Neo-catholic conjurer, you are merely another stripe in that maddening mosaic. Perhaps you should stop self-performing Ecclesiological lobotomies and leave such delicate surgeries to professional, TIME-TESTED specialists..
Jay. Ok, well that certainly clears-up the confusion 🙂
Good bye
I’m Not Sparticus one day;
Born a Catholic the next day;
Amateur Brain Surgeon today;
All with different sensibilities, opinions, and leanings.
This is how Sybil started.
Seriously friend…pick a name and a thought process and stick with it.
…and, well spoken Jay Day.
I see this differently.
1) Did Fr. Wylie take this up one-on-one with the Archbishop/Archdiocese of New York?
2) What really was the motivation behind Fr. Wylie’s comments?
2) Mightn’t it have been better for him limit himself to a general ‘ask the LORD of the harvest to send laborers to his vineyard’.
… It is not what one says but how they say it and to who and the timing …